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Sept 21, 2009 21:48:01 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:48:01 GMT -8
Discuss Celestial Morphs here. Or start your own concise topic in the Celestials section.
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Sept 21, 2009 21:48:33 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:48:33 GMT -8
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:26 am
AreaneCreator wrote:
Some facts I have... open up any discussions?
A Celestial’s morph is highly affected by the creature the Celestial assimilates. If the morph creature does not naturally have telephathic powers, the Celestial loses that ability. The Celestial appears to be the assimilated creature in perfect health. For example, if a Celestial assimilates a five-year-old human child, then their morph would appear to be that five-year-old in perfect health.
A Celestial who is a master morpher, with hundreds of morphs and decades or even centuries of experience, may be able to do a partial morph. This is morphing only partly, such as morphing into a humanoid creature with a Hawk’s head, wings, and talons. Or perhaps just morphing a finger into a claw.
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Sept 21, 2009 21:48:56 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:48:56 GMT -8
Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:24 am
EJ wrote:
Ah-hah! You found exactly the fact I remembered and just mentioned in the genetic engineering section. Partial morphs. They're possible. They're fun. They look really freaky
So your tricked out Celestials would totally work, Matt
EJ
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Sept 21, 2009 21:49:19 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:49:19 GMT -8
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:31 pm
Luz wrote:
Could this partial morph be just an attribute? For example, the strength of a lion?
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Sept 21, 2009 21:49:46 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:49:46 GMT -8
Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:41 am
Cris wrote:
Luz, this is a fascinating question.
Up until now, I don't think I had considered the actual physical strength that Celestials might have. I have finished with the physiology specific section of the sourcebook as it pertains to Celestials and there isn't anything there about this.
What would their base strength be? Would they be as strong as a Terrapyre is naturally? Or would their strength come from being able to move in and out of the 3rd dimension. I remember a long time ago there was mention of a Celestial being able to actually open their bodies to let a sword or lance or arrow pass through without harm. We have established that the only way to kill a Celestial is to rip out/destroy the synapse column.
I had always thought of partial morphs as manifesting a physical atrribute rather than a trait, but this is a very cool idea.
Would it give the Celestials too much of an advantage to have natural strength and the ability to warp their bodies in and out of 3D? WOuld their physical strength need to come from a morph or a summoned creature?
Thoughts?
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Sept 21, 2009 21:50:10 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:50:10 GMT -8
Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:30 pm
JenDiMarco wrote:
Many unanswered and wonderful questions are here, I see. EJ? Weigh in, please Here are more questions:
Can a Celestial assimulate (sample to acquire a morph) a Terrapyre? We staff have seen a plot approved by EJ that allowed a single very powerful morpher Celestial do this... but it went kind of wrong. What is the general rule?
Also, if a Celestial acquires a morph, can that creature (say, a lion) still attack the Celestial or does the acquired creature feel conflicted to attack something that now contains their own DNA?
Just some thoughts.
Jennifer
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Sept 21, 2009 21:50:41 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:50:41 GMT -8
Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:58 am
EJ wrote:
I don't think the base of a Celestial is anywhere near that of a Terrapyre because Terrapyres don't have the incredible manifest and morphing abilities that Celestials have. And, as Cris has said, this dimension is not natural to the Celestials.
I think partial morphs are fine but I was think of partially morphing physical attributes in order to manifest traits. In other words: If you want the strength of a lion, you must manifest at quite a bit of that lion to get that trait.
I also don't think that a Celestial (other than Kianira) would be able to partial morph more than one beast at a time.
Just trying to keep it all fair
EJ
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Sept 21, 2009 21:51:04 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:51:04 GMT -8
Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:29 am
JenDiMarco wrote:
Facts (Right?):
Celestials travel to many different worlds. They acquire morphs on these worlds. They could (with their 4D forms) acquire up to 4D morphs. They cannot manifest as four dimensional on a 3D world (no room).
Question:
Can a Celestial shift into a 4D morph in a 3D world? If they did, what would happen and how would it present?
Jennifer
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Sept 21, 2009 21:51:26 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:51:26 GMT -8
Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:36 am
EJ wrote:
Your facts are all correct, yes.
I don't think, by and large, a Celestila *would* morph into a 4D creature on a 3D world. The four dimension of that creature would be missing entirely and they would seem slightly out of sync with the 3D world (somewhat like Celestials themselves must seem somehow out of sync or odd in some ways on Earth -- in a 3D world -- as one of their dimensions is not visible).
However, if a 4D Celestial can manifest in a 3D world, than they can manifest a 4D beast in a 3D world. It would simply be missing its fourth dimension
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Sept 21, 2009 21:51:48 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:51:48 GMT -8
Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:07 pm
AreaneCreator wrote:
Is that fourth dimension emotion for these creatures as well? What would be missing?
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Sept 21, 2009 21:52:23 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:52:23 GMT -8
Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:56 am
JenDiMarco wrote:
That's a very good question, Launa.
EJ? I know that it was decided long ago that the fourth dimension for Celestials was emotion, but what about the mathematical reality of dimension? How does that fit into the mythology (and so into the bodies/presentations of beasts as well)?
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Sept 21, 2009 21:52:48 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:52:48 GMT -8
Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:46 am
AreaneCreator wrote:
I have a question about morphs. If a Celestial has a minor injury, like a cut or something, and they morph into true form and then back into their human morph, does the cut go away? (Since a Celestial can't really get cut in true form.) Or do they have to heal in water?
Also, could a Celestial morph out just around the injury or do they have to change fully into true form every time?
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Sept 21, 2009 21:53:12 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:53:12 GMT -8
Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:49 am
JenDiMarco wrote:
Launa, IMHO, it would depend upon the severity of the wound. Just a little cut should be able to be healed by a TF return but something more serious (or if the Celestial were low on energy) would require water. In terms of partial morphing (around the wound) or not, I suppose that would depend. What is the decision on partial morphs in general? Allowed?
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Sept 21, 2009 21:53:33 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:53:33 GMT -8
Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:56 am
AreaneCreator wrote:
That's what I was thinking, yes. A wound that doesn't really sap that much energy, it's just annoying. Burns, I would assume, would be a bit different, yes? Because burns are so bad for Celestials?
For a minute I was thinking that people were talking about combining two morphs, but I just realized the early discussion had been this same question. Expert morphers can partial morph. Sorry. Answered my own question.
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Sept 21, 2009 21:53:57 GMT -8
Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2009 21:53:57 GMT -8
Fri May 01, 2009 3:03 am
JenDiMarco wrote:
No problem.
And yeah, I would assume even "minor" burns would be a big deal for Celestials.
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