Outposts

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:49 am

AreaneCreator wrote:

So I was recently editing and finalizing Ganymede and the book talks a lot about the first creation of Outposts. Before Outposts, there were and'e, like 4D tents created by Ganymede's lifemate, Cadmus. Over time, however, Ganymede perfected and expanded the and'e into early Outposts. She hand-made the template for an outpost by handling qurox, the raw 4D material that all Outposts are made of (this is the same raw material that Celestials use to create anything in their matique). To Ganymede, handling qurox is like spinning thread, though it manifests differently to different Celestials. She created an early version of the Outpost while stationed on Earth on her first mission to find Xie'eln. It was from her template that later Outposts were created.

Just a bit of information for anyone who wanted to know

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Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:40 am

JenDiMarco wrote:

Great information to share. Thank you.

Jennifer

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Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:52 pm

Sunshine wrote:

Angel and I went and saw a Tara Donovan show tonight. Tara's work is awe-inducing. She's a biomorphic sculptor with a sensual, living nature to her vision. It was Tigre who first pointed her out to Angel on the Net but seeing Tara's work live was inspiring for any Celestial fan like me.

Tara's site at the Ace Gallery:
www.acegallery.net/artistmenu.php?Artist=8

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Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:05 am

JenDiMarco wrote:

Thanks for posting those, Summer. When I first saw these and showed them to Brianne I mentioned that I thought they resembled the starting matter as an Outpost grows, though I always imagined colors swirling and pulsing within the "combs" (the cup shapes). Glad you two got to see the show.

Jennifer

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Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:29 am

EJ wrote:

I really like that idea, Jennifer. Like if you took a picture of luminescent oil in water and laid it over the images above with a glowing edges filter? That would really look like raw quantum matter to me.

EJ

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Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:40 am

AreaneCreator wrote:

As the novella, Ganymede, has a lot to do with qurox (raw, 4D material), I have sat and pondered these images for a while. I definitely agree with everyone that this artwork has the same raw, otherworldly appearance of pure qurox. But I find Sunshine's description of the artwork fascinating. A sensual, living nature. I think it is important to remember that, despite the scientific and orderly nature of the Homidus society, the base of their society and work is passionate and living.

I suppose this is why I find these images so intriguing and inspiring. It is nice to have a visual for the base material of the Celestial world that can represent the base nature of Celestial society.

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Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:56 am

JenDiMarco wrote:

Absolutely! These (as they are before being colored) look almost like bubbles or clouds. Something immersive, soft and very much alive. Though Terrapyres may like to think of Celestials as cold and hard facts and numbers, images like these try to remind us, I think, of the truth.

I'll ask Brianne if she can try your idea for the images, EJ.

Jennifer

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Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:11 pm

Cris wrote:

I agree that the images Sunshine posted do look a lot like the raw material of Celestial Outposts. Taken further, you could imagine this is one of the ways in which Celestials experience their world (and ours). Being able to understand and therefore, view (if only in the mind's eye), objects on a quantum level is certainly inspiring.

If you click on the link to the images that are on the web, what I found really amazing was all her materials were common items. The way they're presented, arranged and photographed creates the experience, which is the way art should work, no? What I particularly loved about her work was the fact that curves figure prominently. Very sensual and feminine.

Thank you so much for sharing these images, Sunshine!

Cris

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Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:03 pm

JenDiMarco wrote:

Reminds me of fractals, Cris. In the macro they can be every day objects. But look closer and they endlessly repeat, always with a certain flow and, yes, curve. Look at this "progression" for instance:

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Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:46 am

EJ wrote:

Isn't it fascinating that God is math, nature, fractals. And yet we associate Celestials will math not so much Terrapyres. Just goes to show that they are actually not two sides of the same coin but rather the same face of the coin, just one half in light and the other in dark.

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Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:05 pm

Cris wrote:

So the Celestials are in the light, right EJ?

Cris

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Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:14 pm

Brianne wrote:

Is this what you were thinking, EJ?





Or something more like this?



=D

Brianne

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Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:04 pm

AreaneCreator wrote:

Hmm. Those are gorgeous, Brianne.

With Brianne's artwork, I wonder if these images would be more sensual to a Homidus now, hearkening to intimate form being a living mist. I find it interesting that both qurox and Intimate Form can be inspired from the same images. I think it says something, again, about the root of their culture. The base building material of Hom is very much like Intimate Form. Their base material is passionate and intimate, but also their intimate lives are constructive and inspiring.

I'm sure Eliena has written a poem about it that describes what I'm thinking better.

Either way. Outposts are way more smexy to me now.

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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:54 am

EJ wrote:

Cris I would have to say, in accordance with the mythology, that the Celestials are light/day to the Terrapyre's dark/night. But I do hear your little joke ;D Those bad Terrapyres LOL! Oh wait... us Terrapyres are the *Christians* around here!

Brianne, I love so many of these but or different reasons. The last one (with the almost invisible bubbles superimposed over Tara's sculpture) reminds me of the Outpost (as seen from the outside by Maria) I approved th design of for "Blood Trade" (the graphic novel). It's almost as if you've posted a progression. How the combs evolve, cycling through colors and then send out a growing mass of the bubbles to form the outside of the Outpost. A skin, if you will. I would really like these included in the next sourcebook. Thank you!

Launa, There really is no escaping it. Celestial sensuality is tied to nature and science, especially at that quantum level. We've said it before on the forum: Celestials are smexy by nature (pun intended)!

Jennifer, thank you for the fractal progression. I really like that. Almost as if... oh, it would just be cool if that's seriously how Celestials see things. Like, they see the first image when they look at a tree (the second image). Then if they focus, they can see the third image and break it down even further to see the fourth.

Sunshine? You see the thread you've started here, grrl?