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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:26:15 GMT -8
EJ Angel wrote:
I've really been coming back again and again to these dang boots with the dog chain and the angel wings. Will these be Elijah's boots?
I assume that the wing charms are in support of Fallen Angels and the dog chain... well, that's obviously (says Fermat).
This got me thinking...
Would Terrapyres, who love jewelry and ornamentation, have charms for their Skills? Like a key for Key, and wings for Grace, etc. What do you think?
Presence = Sun
Vanish = An Eye
Key = Key
Cloak = Moon
Lead = An Open Hand
Grace = Wing
Or...?
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:26:33 GMT -8
JenDiMarco wrote:
This is a great idea. I've often wondered how much Terrapyres would "show off" their Skills. I mean, I think they would be proud of them and what Skill (or Skills) someone has says a lot about them as a person. Just as, in some communities, individuals wear wristlets or colors to display certain facts, I think Terrapyre culture speaks perfectly to calling out one's Skills.
As for the actual symbols you suggested, EJ, like them all (though, trust me, the wings on my boots are about angels, not me having Grace LOL! I'm too much of a scruffy rat to have anything to do with grace!) except an open hand for Lead. The issue there, in my opinion, is that an open hand looks like someone holding up their hand to say, "Stop." as opposed to, "Follow me" or "I will lead you." What about a raised fist? Just a thought.
Anyone have another idea?
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:27:17 GMT -8
Luz wrote:
I think a raised fist is very much a symbol of resistance and leadership. It works very well.
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:29:47 GMT -8
EJ Angel wrote: Oh yeah. Good point about the open hand. How about this for a raised fist:  |
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:30:16 GMT -8
AreaneCreator wrote:
Luz! You're back! Yay!
I agree about the fist. I think it works very well and, honestly, it makes me think of lead in a bit of a different way. I don't know how I can explain it. Of course, Leads are leaders, but I think this symbol makes them seem a bit more powerful to me. Do you think that Leads, by nature, are more socially or politically aware? Like their personality is more prone to activism?
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:31:01 GMT -8
EJ Angel wrote:
Absolutely. I've always thoughts of Leads this way. Just think of Elijah!
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:32:32 GMT -8
JenDiMarco wrote: Found these at http://www.charmfactory.com:  Found these at www.orientaltrading.com (same ones on my boots):  EJ? If activism and political awareness is part of Lead (which makes a lot of sense) then that needs to get into the sourcebook. |
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:33:27 GMT -8
EJ Angel wrote:
Those are cool, Jennifer. I really do love those wings.
Yeah, I always say Lead that way. Maybe we should do some brainstorming about the personality traits that might come with the Skills?
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:34:11 GMT -8
AreaneCreator wrote:
I think that would be very interesting, actually. What traits may come with the skills. Like people with cloak could usually be more introverted or people with grace may be more interested in the arts. (just suggestions)
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:42:45 GMT -8
Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:13 am
EJ Angel wrote:
Awesome, Launa! Thanks Before we begin, a quick disclaimer: These are just what is common. Not *all* Immortals with a specific Skill will exhibit all or any of the additional elements.
Okay then!
Let's start with my personal favorite: Lead
Ability in Game Play: Carry any number of allies with you during a move.
Ability in Mythology: A natural leadership ability. Even those wary of a leaders will follow someone with Lead. Also, enemies and others will notice and even fixate on someone with Lead, paying less attention to any followers under the Lead's protection.
Additional Elements: Leads tend to be politically aware (Human and Immortal politics). They grasp the "larger picture" very well and tend to overlook the smaller interpersonal details. They are strategists and protective. They are self-sacrificing. They believe in active protest and extreme measures. They are in-your-face, not subtle. They can be intense. They can seem so driven they are heartless. They believe in tough-love. They don't tend to be talkative.
Anyone know someone like this? A leader people can't help but follow? Want to add some elements to this list before we go on?
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:43:23 GMT -8
Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:01 pm
AreaneCreator wrote:
Hmm. I think, if a Lead found a group to latch onto, that they would care very much about their followers, become even fiercely protective.
Also, do we want to talk about "little skills" that may be associated with lead? Like, traits and skills that have nothing to do with being immortal, but may commonly manifest in an immortal with a certain skill. Like in an RPG. You pick a character type, and then have minor skills that go with that character.
For example, a Lead might have: Minor precognative skills, (you already mentioned a gift for strategy), perhaps good public speaking skills, charisma, etc.
Also, I would think that, because of the nature of Lead, if a Lead were to try to learn another Skill, Presence may come more easily than any other Skill.
Do you agree?
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:43:47 GMT -8
Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:00 pm
EJ wrote:
Many Immortals, as we all know, have a primary and a secondary Skill. Though interesting characters can mix this pairing up, I've always seen these combos as most common:
Lead/Presence
Grace/Key
Vanish/Cloak
I suppose this may have been in my mind from the beginning because these combinations were how Chorus, Elijah and Angelus were cast in "Immortal Waking" but they also just make a lot of sense.
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:44:19 GMT -8
Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:04 pm
EJ wrote:
Leads would tend to be articulate, excellent at communication skills (getting and giving information), understanding resources and allocations, controlling a group, peace-making, setting an example, representing the needs of a group, planning, evaluating a situation, probability assessment.
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:45:02 GMT -8
Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:26 am
AreaneCreator wrote:
Hmm. I really like breaking it down like this. It's really helping me.
I have one more question: What do you think *negative* traits might be for a lead? Impatience, perhaps? Or... ?
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2009 17:45:35 GMT -8
Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:29 pm
EJ wrote:
Impatient. Tough love (which can be a negative). Not emotionally generous. Very dominate. Judgmental. Fiercely independent. Alpha personality. OCD.
Make sense?
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